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Written on Apr 04 2012 11:09
rodrigo
WWOOF Coordinator
Registered Since:
Jan 07 2009
Posts: 154
I just see one problem ...
Most of the WWOOFers book all the Hosts before leaving home. So on the moment of booking they have no failures on showing icon_frown.gif
Any idea or comment?
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Written on Apr 05 2012 09:23
Casalinho
WWOOF Host
Registered Since:
Dec 30 2008
Posts: 37
I think the problem arises when potential volunteers email many hosts, then fail to follow those up when their plans change or only think to when prompted by another email from the host.

It´s easy, as a volunteer, to assume that hosts are sitting there with lots of empty accommodation, waiting for you to come and use it. In reality we have to book those spaces out carefully otherwise we risk overbooking. What that means, when someone then lets us down, is that we have turned away potential volunteers who really wanted to be here, and have projects which will not be completed through lack of help at the right times.

Common good manners dictates that both volunteers and hosts keep in touch!

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Written on Apr 05 2012 09:25
Casalinho
WWOOF Host
Registered Since:
Dec 30 2008
Posts: 37
Saulius wrote:

My suggestion would be star new topic in this forum and post wwoofers names that didn't show up. A host then can check whether requesting wwoofer is on the list or not. If he is on the list - he is not reliable. Maybe it's drastic and rude but it's rude to cancel your arrival last minute as well. What do you think?



This is exactly why I feel that allowing hosts to leave references for volunteers is the right way to proceed.

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Written on May 25 2012 10:35
felicia
WWOOF Host
Registered Since:
Apr 15 2007
Posts: 52
They must send me a copy of their air-ticket or trainticket which shows when they will arrive.

A couple have send copies with air-ticket to Arlanda. And before that we will have mail-contacts.

Another couple is coming by own car.

We will see how it works out. It looks like we will have full-booked June, July and August. Around 3 wwoofers all the time.

I think one big problem with this site is that wwoofers can register without saying anything about themself.

But the biggest problem is that the wwoofers who write a profile do not need to tell if they are availabel (or fi they just want to look for hosts themeselves) and when they are available.

So many invitations without no use.
Written on Jun 19 2012 12:22
Sarah80
WWOOF Host
Registered Since:
Jun 11 2011
Posts: 1
I would really welcome a rating system for both wwoofers and hosts. This could be a fair solution for both sides. Other volunteer sites have it, and I think it's great - it might assure better behaviour from wwoofers.
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Written on Jul 02 2012 10:51
larkaa
WWOOF User
Registered Since:
Jun 07 2012
Posts: 1
I thought I'd add my two cents.

Before choosing a host, I read through the forums, and I paid particular attention to this topic. So, I made sure that I carefully read everything about my host, contacted their references, etc, before deciding to email them with a serious inquiry.

After a week of no response, I feel it's time to email more hosts. It is a shame to mass email different hosts, but it is also difficult when your emails are left without response.

There is obviously pressure on both sides of the issue. Just want to point out that wwoofers sometimes need to plan ahead as well.
Written on Oct 31 2012 23:18
radstedgaard
WWOOF Host
Registered Since:
Mar 31 2012
Posts: 1
I think it's part of the 'game'. We have only had one wwoofer that didn't come - and with her I had some bad feeling right from the beginning - but i didn't listen to it. Since then I started to use my intuition much more, and I also allow myself to say no to wwoofers just based on my intuition even though we have vacancy.

At the site of helpx you can see if the helper is sending out bulks. That helps. But I also would like the wwoof-sites to allow hosts to write about wwoofers on the wwoofers site. That would for sure encourage wwoofers to be more clear - fast.

Hanne
Written on Jan 22 2013 10:50
almarjanito
WWOOF Host
Registered Since:
Aug 22 2011
Posts: 1
Hi, have experienced our 1st no-showers - no "sorry we can't come now", no response to emails, nothing...maybe there can be a system when this happens via coordinators that can send an automated mail to woofers and perhaps a warning that if woofers do it twice then they are red-carded and membership removed.

I had 7 other enquiries for january to which I said no as I thought I had a positive and definite confirmation...so others missed out too...
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Written on Feb 16 2013 10:43
rodrigo
WWOOF Coordinator
Registered Since:
Jan 07 2009
Posts: 154
Hi Keeley,

I am sorry to hear about this.
When a WWOOFer login he/she always see this message:
"If you don't notify your host at least 10 days before an agreed date that you will fail your visit, you can be banned from WWOOF Portugal"

Please send me an email - rodrigo@wwoof.pt with the name and email of the volunteer.

Wish you better luck with you next WWOOFer,

Rodrigo
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Written on Feb 20 2013 13:56
shelovesblue
WWOOF User
Registered Since:
Feb 20 2013
Posts: 1
Hi, I'm new to the site and new in wwoofing, so I might say some stupid and/or naive things ! But, I do have some experience in a related area - renting out rooms to international trainees, short stays (because I like having young people around from all over the world). Concerning the no show, I only consider the deal valid upon receipt of a deposit. In wwoofing, this should of course be less than in renting out rooms, but something like 15€ should be affordable for everyone. To be paid into the national wwoof-organization or to the host? I see logistics problems ok, but with paypal maybe it could be not too difficult? The 15€ deposit on settling the deal (not the request of course) would then be lost in case of a no show and if paid to the organization this money could be used to improve website. This would avoid bulk requests/promises and most wwoofers would maybe think twice. Of course this should not be necessary at all as the wwoofing community ideally should be based on mutual trust, but...
A 'no show' button could be a solution, because a no show is really bad, but generally I don't like the idea of 'marking' hosts/users alike in case of 'cooperation problems'. Such problems can be due to a multitude of reasons, not necessarily because the host or the user is bad. We are dealing with humans...and their perceptions are not always 'objectively correct'. Constructive textual references normally work quite well.
Concerning another thread on empty profiles: in my renting out of the rooms, I normally receive up to 100 requests every time a room is free, some don't send much information. I then send a standard very short mail stating: "pls read carefully the ad again and send very specific info about yourself as we will be living together and therefore need to know each other." Of course I don't bother with those who remain more or less silent on themselves. Not polite on my part, but not polite on their part either, so no bad feelings about that.
Looking forward to be a respectful wwoofer
Annette
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